Class #2, 1/30/12

**Roster and misc. issues--any problems obtaining text?

**Discussion points for the Euthyphro:

• Any difficulties reading the text--what don't you get?
• Does the discussion with Euthyphro live up to Socrates' motto:  "I tell you that . . . examining both myself and others is really the very best thing that a man can do, and that life without this sort of examination is not worth living."
• What was this about?  Did you find that this discussion arrived at satisfactory answers?
• What proposed definitions of "piety" or "holiness" do Socrates and Euthyphro consider?
• Why can't Socrates and Euthyphro come to a satisfactory definition of holiness?
• Does Socrates believe it is possible to define holiness?
• Why does Socrates think that holiness must be "the same in every sphere of activity"?
• Why does Socrates consider "the most ingenious feature" of his art to be his ability to make the products of Euthyphro's mind not "stay put"?
• Since his conversation with Euthyphro moves in a circle, ending where it began, does Socrates intend it to teach us something other than a definition of holiness?
• Is Euthyphro justified in prosecuting his father for the worker's death?
• Do you agree with Socrates that there is only one standard by which all things are holy and unholy?

**A little more to help us follow the argument:




**What does this discussion mean for the hope of success in defining "holiness," "religion," or other terms during this semester?
          --Maybe it's not as bleak as it looks....

**For next week, 2/6/12:  We'll turn to an actual account of "religious experience" and some ways to interpret what's going on with it--in Part Two of the text, read the following articles:
------>Pp 40ff:  St. Theresa of Jesus, [her description of a series of experiences];
------>Pp 43ff:  Philosopher William James, "Religious Experience as Feelings forming the Root of Religion;"
------>Pp 68ff:  Philosopher Michael Martin, "Critique of Religious Experience."

**Write a page:  There are two questions I'd like your feedback on--
------>What do you make of Saint Theresa's account?
------>Do you side with either James or Martin, or would you explain this in some other manner?  Briefly explain.